Plastic Surgery Facts vs. Myths with Dr. Wilton Triggs — Morgan DeBaun (2024)

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october 24, 2023

This week, prominent Miami plastic surgeon Dr. Wilton Triggs is joining Morgan DeBaun to answer your questions and separate facts from myths on all things cosmetic surgery. Expect an exclusive look into Dr. Triggs' day-to-day life as a plastic surgeon – from the number of surgeries he typically performs in a day to how he uses mood boards to manage patient expectations.

Procedures on the docket for conversation: Brazilian Butt Lifts, breast augmentations, botox, facelifts, tummy-tucks, heightening surgeries, and the newly popular "DDL" (you just have to listen to find out what that is), and so much more. Plus, Dr. Triggs is getting into the details of how scars are hidden and some of the risks associated with surgery.

The conversation takes an unexpected turn, with Dr. Triggs sharing some of the more memorable experiences he's had in the office – from patients regularly finding out they are pregnant on the day of surgery to a woman attending her consultation from a prison contraband phone. In the end, Dr. Triggs shares his vision for a future of philanthropy, underlining the importance of giving back and creating a positive impact beyond the operating room.

Get ready to expand your knowledge on cosmetic surgery, laughing all the way through. And if having work done is in your future, schedule a consultation with Dr. Wilton Triggs himself!

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So today we're going to talk all about plastic surgery. Where are the scars going? Best places to go get plastic surgery. Does it change my perception when I'm dating somebody? Have women scheduled consultations from jail? Hey everyone, I'm Morgan DeBaun, a passionate entrepreneur and life advisor. With the Journey podcast, you'll discover that success isn't about the destination, it's about the journey. I'm sharing stories of amazing people who've taken control of their lives.

00:26

Join me on my own journey to discover the secret sauce behind reaching success with permission from no one else.

00:36

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01:05

So we're going to get into the trendy things that are going on, the stuff that's like old news, get into maybe a couple of your botched stories just because I love the tea. Oh yeah. And then also just talk a little bit about your journey, you know, navigating, becoming a doctor, and all the things that you want to do with your life. Right, right. So let's get into it. Let's get into it. So first things first, you're from Alabama. I am. I'm from Huntsville, Alabama.

01:32

Actually a small town called Triana, populations like, last time I checked Wikipedia, like around a thousand poor, rural, black community. Wow. And we moved into Huntsville proper, probably right when I was in middle school. And that was like a culture shock for me, cause I'm, you know, it was like Southern counties. So, you know, it was predominantly white. And then I was in an inner city, like high school and middle school. So it was totally different. I was like, oh, it's a lot more me. It's like, oh, you know, it's just, it's totally different, but.

01:59

I wind up loving it and I think it really shaped me for who I am today, like being able to navigate and things like that. So, that's the thing. There's probably not a lot of plastic surgeons in Huntsville, Alabama though. No, no. I mean, I see the billboards now because, you know, it's like I'm keen to it, but there's not a lot of plastic surgeons, you know, across the country. It's a very small specialty. Everybody kind of knows everybody. And then the subset of like black plastic surgeons, it's almost like a unicorn, like almost like one per city or maybe one per state or something like that.

02:28

I did look up in Nashville, I was like, I wonder who the plastic surgeons, there's actually, I couldn't find one. Do you know any that are here in the building? I know my mentor when I was in med school, Jason Wendell, he was with Vanderbilt. I think he may be completely private practice now. And then the division chair was Bruce Shaq at the time. Those are academics though. Yeah, exactly. I'm not talking about the academics. I think he's retired, no. So I think Jason Wendell's probably the only person I know that practices here in Nashville. Crazy. Yeah, I know, it's a rare thing.

02:57

So we're sitting with a unicorn. All right, so how did you go from rural Alabama to the King of Miami, live in the fast life, BBLs every day? Right, right. That feels like a giant leap. It was. So I mean, it was like a gradual thing. I went to med school. I thought I wanted to be a neurosurgeon. I read all these books, A Keef Black, A Gifted Hands by Ben Carson. I thought that's what I wanted to do. I didn't like it. It didn't fit my personality. I didn't like the procedures.

03:27

And so I thought about dermatology. So my mom's mom, you know, my maternal grandmother, had melanoma, which is rare in the black community. And so that kind of piqued my interest. So I applied through the American Academy of Dermatology. Got this mentorship for a month. Meharry allowed me to do that mentorship because I was only a second year. You went to Meharry Medical School? Yep, here in Nashville because my mom, I'll get into that. But I did this one month internship, which is rare because you usually have to be a third or fourth year to do something like this. And they gave me permission.

03:54

And I loved it, but I liked the surgery part of it more. And so one of the residences was like, where you should check out plastics. And so I did a two week rotational plastics as a third year, loved it. And then I did some away rotations where it was just a month long rotation, only doing plastic surgery stuff. I did it at the University of Kentucky and I did it at Vanderbilt. And with the residency, I loved it. Thought I was gonna be a pediatric plastic surgeon doing cleft lip, palate, you know, children with deformities, but I didn't like those procedures. And I don't like to see kids hurt.

04:22

And I love kids. I mean, I love them. And so I was just gonna be like a general plastic surgeon doing some reconstruction, doing some cosmetics. So I worked in a rural hospital system in Ohio. I love that hospital. I mean, the staff were great. And the only reason I left was because I just wanted to be closer to home. If I could move that hospital, I'd still be there doing the same stuff. And my practice was like 50-50, reconstruction and cosmetics. Wait, can you explain what reconstruction is? Yeah, so.

04:49

A lot of people think of plastic surgery just being more aesthetic stuff, like tummy tugs, breast augmentation, things like that. But it's actually a bigger field in reconstruction. So like skin cancer, where people have real bad skin cancers and they have to be cut off, you can't just close that tissue together and create a straight line. You gotta rotate tissue in, bring in tissue from other places. Or if somebody is in a bad car accident and they break their bone, but that bone tears the skin at the same time, you can't just close that skin up. You gotta...

05:18

move tissue from somewhere else, or bad burns, bad burn reconstruction. So that's kind of like what we call reconstruction. Okay. And so I was doing a lot of that, did a lot of bit of residency. So I left and came down to Miami. And- From Ohio? From Ohio, another culture shock, but I was ready for it because I, you know, been from a small town in Alabama that I moved to Tampa, which is, you know, mid-sized city. Right. I was in Nashville, but you know, I never saw myself living in Miami. Like I had visited Miami and I was like, I could never live here.

05:47

You are so Miami now, I don't know. I am, yeah. Yeah, so I love it. I'm a Miami boy, you know? But I love it now. The plan is to put down roots. I've been there almost three years now. Almost three years. And you know, I love what I do. The expectations are a lot higher, though. You know, even from like doing cosmetic surgery in different cities. In Miami, it's like they want to look like, you know, the face.

06:13

or they want it to look like they've had makeup done or it's been edited. And so, you know, you have to have some real deep conversations to like, hey, let's be real now. You know, you're not a robot. This is a Photoshop. This is not real. Exactly, this is not real. But we're gonna get you as close as we can there, you know. So, that's how I made it to Miami though. Fascinating. Okay, so you said you did a stop in Tampa. So, now I should know this, cause my dad's a doctor, my brother's a doctor, but it's med school, residency,

06:43

You can do a fellowship depending on what you want to do. So I didn't need to do a fellowship, so I went straight into practice after residency. And that's where I did my residency, was in Tampa. Got it. And then you said, I need to make money now. I'm going to Miami. Yeah, exactly. I wanted to be closer to home, and I wanted to make more. That's what brought me to Miami. I love it. All right, so walk me through what you do. Do you do surgeries every day? I do. I do consultations and surgeries all day every day, Monday through Friday. So how many surgeries would you do in a normal day?

07:13

It's usually like five or six. It depends. It's a lot. Yeah. I'm like, I'm young. I'm going to knock them out now. But like a breast augmentation doesn't take me that long. You know, at most, 45 minutes to do a breast augmentation. Really? The fastest one I've done is probably like 24 minutes, skin to skin, as we say. Whoa, OK. Wait, wait, wait. 45 minutes for a new test? Yeah. God damn. Yeah, as long as I'm not having to lift them or do anything extra, we're just putting in implants. It's a quick procedure. And for the person who's getting the procedure,

07:43

That means it's like a half day, you're in and you're out. Yep, exactly. You're probably home within two to three hours after recovery and stuff like that. Wow. OK, so let's walk through, these are the questions I got. I took questions from the audience. If you guys ever want to submit questions to me, you can always DM me on Instagram or DM the podcast. But basically, I ask people, what kind of questions do you have for Dr. Triggs? Number one question was first, just like, what are the actual steps? I think there's a lot of people who

08:09

Like they implicitly know that a lot of folks in the world are getting plastic surgery. It's becoming more and more popular for the everyday person, not just a LA celebrity, you know? But it feels overwhelming, and it's not something that people talk about openly a lot. So if I'm like, I would like to have my booths done, what are the steps that I should take then? What happens next? I think one, make sure that you're healthy, you know, you're eating right, like.

08:36

your BMI or basically your weight is under control. If you're on any medications or anything, check with your primary care doctor and have that conversation with them too. Like, hey, I'm thinking about getting cosmetic surgery, thinking about getting my breasts done. Do you think I'm gonna get a candidate from just overall health standpoint? Okay. Because you're probably gonna see them before you probably see me. And then at that point, you can start looking at pictures and even just schedule a consultation. Most consultations are free. Some plastic surgeons do charge, I don't.

09:03

And we have a frank discussion. We look at your pictures. We talk about your expectations. And then at that point, it's kind of like, all right, well, I have all the information. Do I want to pull the trigger on this or not? Like, one, making sure you're healthy. And two, talking to the plastic surgeon you're thinking about handing your life to, essentially, are the biggest steps, for sure. And on mood board. I heard you just say a mood board, basically. Yeah, basically, look at pictures. Like, this is the look I'm going for. Can I accomplish this?

09:31

Some plastic surgeons hate that. I don't mind it, because to me, it shows your expectations. So I kind of know what you're going for. And I'll tell you, sure, I'm like, no, we're not going to get there. Or I'm like, yeah, we can get you close to there. I can't promise it, but I think it's feasible. Because in the BBL realm, I'm like, all right, so what are you shooting for? Oh, I want something more natural. They show me this picture. I'm like, that's not natural. That's not natural at all. I'm glad we had this discussion, because I would have made them natural, and they would have been mad at.

09:58

So do they really think that the picture they're showing you is a natural butt? Yeah, some of them do. Oh, I love that for them Yeah, and I'm looking at my note. This is not natural Like three procedures. Yeah, this is like three rounds of BBL trying to get in the fat to stay in that area And you know come out with that look. Yeah Fascinating. Okay, so we're gonna come back to BBLs cuz that's a whole segment on its own So you first make sure you're healthy BMI meaning, you know, you can't be incredibly overweight

10:28

And then, do you need your primary physician to sign off on this? No. Yeah, some plastic surgeons. For me, you do. I want a medical clearance from your primary care doctor, meaning that all your laboratory work is with the normal range, all your medical conditions, if you have any, are taken care of and stable. I think it's just better to be safe than sorry. When I was in a hospital setting, unless that person was older or a sicker person, then I would require it. But now, everybody gets a medical clearance.

10:56

Because what I've come to find out that younger people are having more medical problems than my older patients. Like my older patients may have like, you know, some high cholesterol or some high blood pressure, but it's all controlled, they're fine. My younger patients, I got some things going on. I'm like, I've only seen this in the textbook. Oh really? Yeah. Like high blood pressure and a YNA? Or just like some weird like blood clotting disorders or things I've only like read in an article. And so I have to like send them back to their primary care doctor.

11:21

and they have to go see specialists to make sure, you know, all that is taken care of. So I think it's a good practice because one, it may, you know, diagnose them with something that could potentially hurt them later down the road. We can get that taken care of ASAP. Because a lot of people, you know, our age or younger aren't really going to the physician as much unless they absolutely need to.

11:40

And so this kind of like may bring up something that could potentially save them later. Yeah. I mean, we've all seen the news and the headlines of terrible stories of people who die after getting plastic surgery, or haven't heard as many stories recently of people dying on the table, but mostly like within the next two weeks after. Yeah.

11:59

help us understand what are the kind of factors that are typically going to those cases. I'm sure y'all are all talking about it in your private search and checks or whatever. You're trying to avoid those. Most of the time it's what we call venous thromboembolism, so blood clots, essentially. So being under a general anesthesia increases your risk of blood clots because your veins aren't moving that blood as well. So that's why they put these squeezy things on you. That's why they...

12:23

have you wear these compression stocks or what we call Tedhoes, and then you want your patient up and moving around like ASAP. That's the first thing I preach in consultation, and that's what I preach the day of surgery, and then they go home with instructions of how often they need to be up and walking. Because just because you had surgery doesn't mean you just lay in a bed like the sick and sudden. I want you moving to try to get you back to your baseline as quick as possible. And so walking is the biggest thing you can do to prevent that. You can also give them a blood thinner and make sure their kidney functions well because there's different types of blood thinner to help.

12:52

prevent that, but it's usually something in the realm of a blood clot. How does a blood clot kill you? So it travels from the veins of the legs and then it can travel up to the lungs. And so the lungs can't oxygenate the heart. And so that's when you basically have like a heart attack or something like that, because it stops the function, because you're not delivering oxygen to the tissues or it can travel up to the brain and cause a stroke. And so, you know, those neurons aren't getting fresh oxygen to fire and things like that.

13:19

Not to be morbid, but I'm just like, what is it? No, no. So that's actually what got me into medicine. Like, you would hear how people got sick, and you were like, so what's going on in the body to cause these symptoms, either from a microscopic or more of a macroscopic or both level? And so that's how I got into medicine. If you had asked me, I would have said it's the anesthesia, because people are always like, going under, you're going under. And they make the like, am I awake? Yeah, yeah. And if I'm awake, then I'm not at risk. That's like.

13:46

as an uneducated person. The thing about being awake is because those veins are able to still pump. And so the blood's moving like normal, because you're able to wiggle your legs and stuff like that. So that butt's pumping. So you decrease your chance of developing a blood clot. So that's why awake anesthesia is good. You can go under and be just fine. The only thing is, you really got to make sure you're pumping that blood. Got it. And some people, especially us type A people, control freaks, it's not the surgery that scares us. It's the anesthesia.

14:16

And it's because you have to give up the ultimate control, which is your body. Yeah. I'm one of those. Would you ever get plastic surgery? Have you had plastic surgery, I should say? No, I've had Botox. Yeah, I had my nurse give me Botox. Wait, lift your eyebrows. It's not a reason. This is about a year ago. Real wrinkled up up here.

14:33

Might get a little vampire facial, you know, smooth the skin out, but no, I'm not opposed to it. There's no procedure I could see myself really wanting unless I was to like gain a lot of weight and have a lot of loose skin. I wouldn't want that loose skin because it causes problems like rashes and stuff like that. So other than that, I don't think I would really do outside of just like medical spa stuff, botox and stuff. You hear how I was like, well, you know, outside of this. Exactly. I'm not opposed to it. I'm just saying right now. Right now is what I'm thinking.

15:00

Yeah, but no, I see no problem with it. Like, I have some men that come in because they don't like their ears, they're too big, or they're poking out. Yeah, so what are the things that men are getting? Oh, man. Calfs. Calf implants, bicep implants, or... Wait, bicep implants? Yeah, or fat transfer to the biceps, or to these muscle groups, yeah. They'll get lipo, will define, like, their chest and stuff like that, and they can put fat in there to kind of bulk them up a little bit. Can you tell? Like, if you saw, like, two men standing next to each other...

15:28

and one of them had gotten work done, would you be able to tell? Could you spot it? Yeah, I think, depending on how good the surgeon is, it makes it a little bit more difficult because there's a couple of guys that are well known for this, and you look at them like, yo, that's good, but yeah, if they're not as good, you can definitely tell. What about calves? You probably couldn't tell calves. No, no. What about the scar? Where would the scar go? A lot of times they're just getting fat injected there, but they do try to hide the scar in the crease, what we call the popliteal crease, right behind the kneecap, trying to hide it in there. So you gotta be looking for it.

15:57

Because some people heal really well. They have a scar, but that scar is like impermeable. So yeah. But yeah, and then men get a lot of like Botox fillers, things like eyelid surgery is a bit for men. What about chin implants? Chin implants, yep. They get that strong jaw line. That's a big thing. A lot of them are starting with the fillers, but after a while, they're like, yo, I could have just had a chin implant. And my jaw line would be nice. Male neck lifts and facelifts is probably more common in like the 55 age range. Interesting.

16:27

So I was on TikTok, which is a terrible place to get medical advice. Yeah, and I've seen some videos. I'm like, that doesn't make any sense, no. And one of the trends that I was seeing was that people were advocating for getting a facelift actually in your early 40s, like starting younger, getting a mini facelift. Which I was like, I don't understand the logic of that. What are the kind of procedures or trends that you're just like, that doesn't actually make sense, you guys. Don't do that. I don't know about that mini facelift thing,

16:56

If you get it early, when you get older and it starts to kind of droop or become tautic again, you know, that's more scar tissue to deal with and that's a harder facelift to do versus just waiting to a point where you actually need it. But no, I haven't heard any other trends. I don't really be on TikTok like that. I'm more of an IG person. I'm still an IG person. I wouldn't want my surgeon on TikTok to be eight. I'm okay with that.

17:18

Okay, so myth or trend then, you should start getting Botox in your 20s. You can. It definitely works. It does make those muscles more weak to where you don't develop as deep a wrinkle or as many wrinkles versus someone that doesn't. And I see, and I started seeing that when I was in residency, we were having like young girls, like 18 or 19 getting Botox. Wow. Yeah. Cause I'm like, yeah, I don't want any wrinkles. I want my face paralyzed. Yeah. I want stiffed. No. Obviously, all my Botox is gone.

17:46

That's one thing about being pregnant, you can't do anything. And so I was Googling, this is the other thing, I look on TikTok. TikTok is my new Google. You know, there's more searches on TikTok per day than Google now. That's crazy. Just saying. The algorithm is just really good. Is it? So I was searching, I was like, well, when after baby can I go and get Botox or fillers or whatever? Cause I have an empty, I have an empty face, I have a fresh face right now. I would say in like three months. Three months postpartum. Really? Yeah.

18:13

if I'm not breastfeeding then. Exactly. Because if you're breastfeeding, no, right? I wouldn't risk it. I don't know if it does transmit or transmits through the breast milk, but why even risk it. Yeah. So you all might see this for a couple more years here. Couple more years? You're doing that? Some people knew that though. I had a patient that breastfed until the baby was like four. That's why. I mean, I appreciate those women, but it's not for me. Well, I mean, I haven't even started, and I can tell you. So I will.

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do at least a strong eight months to a year till he can eat real food. Anyways, so okay, good to know. And then what about the scars? So one of the things that I see is I was like, look at these celebrities. We look at these women who you're like, I know you got something. Like, Dreya, she just talked about the fact that she said she didn't get a BBL, she said she got butt shots. And in my head, I'm like, and she's had her boobs done twice.

19:12

But I'm like, you were half naked in all of your swimsuit outfits because of mid swim. And I've never seen a scar on your body. Yeah, that's how you know you're a good plastic surgeon if you can hide the scars. Because that's what you tell them, I can't promise that it's scarless. Definitely can't do that. There's no such thing as a scarless surgery. What we do best in anything is to hide the scars. You put them in different places to where when you take pictures or you're out and about, you have to go searching for it.

19:38

And so like when a lot of plastic surgeons do these like TikToks or IG videos on like celebrities and do I think they had this? That's what they're looking for. The typical places they would hide the scars. Same thing with BBL. Some people are really good in hiding them. Where are the scars going? Exactly. Tell me. Oh, I want to know. All right, so for breasts, you know, you can do it around a nipple.

19:59

Oh, here? Yep, or in the armpit, or what we call the axilla. OK. Slide the implant in, but it's hard to do silicone implants. They have to do saline, because they pump them up like balloons to slide it into that. Oh. Some people do it through the belly button to do breast implants. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. You're putting an implant up the belly button all the way up? But it's a saline one, because it's like a little bag. I don't know what that means. Saline implant, you pump it full of saline to blow it up, versus a silicone, which is already like a whole breast implant.

20:29

The only way to put that in is either through the nipple or underneath the breast. So then why wouldn't everyone get saline? Some people don't like the look of saline implants, because when you bend over, they wrinkle a little bit more. So you can go, oh, those ripples on the side of her breast. People don't like when they get cold sometimes and they go into the warm area, their breasts still feel cold because the saline has gotten cold. And then they're not as soft as the basilica. Squishy. Exactly. But then you'd have no scars. That's true.

20:56

You know, these are the things you ask in consultations. You weigh the... I wouldn't even know to ask these questions. Yeah, yeah. That's why I think the pictures kind of help. Like you show your expectations and then the plastic surgeon can talk about, all right, this is how I typically do this procedure. This is where your scars would be and stuff like that. Okay, and then a BBL is a Brazilian butt lift. And what does that entail? So it's liposuction. So we take fat mostly from the torso, so the belly or...

21:22

wherever else you want us to get fat from. And then we inject it in the subcutaneous space or the fat space of the butt in the hips to give it a nice round, round mound or something like that. There we are. Exactly. OK. And scarring? Scarring isn't bad. Even if you put it in a noticeable spot, that skin usually heals pretty well, unless you are prone to developing darker scars or keloids or something like that. But those are usually hard to find. And most women, when they pose, they edit them out anyway.

21:51

You know, they just do that little smear thing and boom, smooth. But in real life? They still heal pretty well to where you don't see them as much. But some people are good at hiding them. Like you put one in the cleft, you know, where the cheeks are, underneath the cheeks, right where it kind of hangs. And it's hard to find them. Yeah, you got to be looking for them. You got to be like on the person. Which is like, I'm going to say at that point. Exactly. So they hide pretty well. OK. We have a question from the audience, which is,

22:19

we're seeing a lot of women take out their breast implants and maybe they got them 10 years ago, they're in their late 30s, early 40s now, they're like, I did this in my 20s. And then you see them take them out and then they say, my skin got so much better, my this got so much better, myth or fact. So right now in the literature, they're calling it breast implant disease or something like that.

22:45

The FDA has shown no causation for those symptoms through the studies that breast implants are actually causing these problems, like autoimmune type diseases and things like that. But I know people personally that had implants, loved them, didn't want to get rid of them, but were just always tired, sad, having skin problems and things like that. And so they had them removed and they said, oh, those things went away. Wow. So it's something going on. The literature just hasn't really shown that...

23:13

that's what's causing it and how it's causing it. Yeah. But some of the options are, a lot of people are starting to do fat grafting to the breast, so the same concept of a Brazilian butt lift except for the breast. But just like one of the risks of a BBL, all the fat doesn't stay alive. Some of it gets eaten away from the body, and so you can wind up with some asymmetry. One breast, the fat takes, the one breast, the fat doesn't take as much as so. You wind up being a little asymmetric, a little lopsided. Lopsided. And that's real life. Yeah, exactly.

23:41

You know, breasts are usually, one's bigger than the other. Some are like sisters, some are more like cousins. And so the only way to fix that is to kind of redo the surgery, put more fat in at one side. But a lot of surgeons are starting to do that now, taking out breast implants from women that are having issues, just don't want them anymore, and do a fat grafting or some type of breast lift, we call it mastopexy, to kind of still give them that result that they want. But that's usually the biggest thing you could do is to fat graft the breast. Mm.

24:09

And when I see people who've taken their boobs out and they have all this like hard stuff around it, what is that? So that's the scar tissue. So anytime you put something foreign in a body, it's gonna form a scar around it. Sometimes the scar tissue gets so strong, that's when we call it a contracture and it actually causes pain. And there's different types of contracture, like to the point where you can tell by looking at them, or you can't tell but it still hurts. And so when you take that implant out, you take out that scar capsule so things can heal.

24:39

cause less pain or whatnot. But yeah, it's just your own scar tissue causing that problem. Okay, so we have saline, silicone, any other types? No, so there's, with silicone, there's what we call the gummy bear, where like if you bite into a gummy bear, it doesn't just leak out everywhere. And so a lot of people would like that, that gets silicone implants, because back in the day, if that silicone implant.

25:01

broke, it would just kind of ooze, you know, out and people worry about it getting in the bloodstream and things like that. But now with the new technology, it stays together. So you can slice these implants in half, and they just two separate implants. So a little bit more expensive saline, of course, is cheaper, but a lot of people like it. And that's mostly what I do a lot of gummy bear implants. Every once in a while, I get a saline. But if you're under 22, you can only have saline implants per the FDA.

25:33

I'm like, okay, got it. Scars, under the boob, on the nipple, got it. BBL scars, on the back, stomach. Yeah, yeah, right around like, you know, right above the jaw, stuff like that, yep. There's a new trend now with men called the, well online called the DDL, you know. What is that? Fat graft into the penis. At the bottom? Yeah. At the bottom. So, you know, some men are trying to, you know, give it some more girth. Does it work?

26:02

Yeah. How does that work though? You gotta be careful in where you inject in the fat. It increases the girth. Sometimes by increasing the girth, it gives you just a little bit more length, but with length, you have to like, there's a ligament you can cut to, they say that gives the illusion of it being a little bit longer, but mostly it just increases the girth. That just sounds so high risk.

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Yeah. Swanned that dude. That's giving very high risk. Yeah, until we get some more studies out there and some long-term results. I'm just going to stay away from that one. But it's a thing. Some people are doing it. Some people are doing it and getting good results with it. I hadn't seen them. I hadn't seen the results. But apparently, they're out there. It's become more commonplace. Do you ever get desensitized because you look at so many naked bodies every day? Like, do you still obviously find women attractive, et cetera, but like,

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Do you find yourself desensitized occasionally? I think when I'm in work mode, it's work mode. I think I'm very good at compartmentalizing. I think that's a strength of mine. So like, if I'm in work mode, like it's whatever, and I'm like, oh, I got this going on, or oh, I'm on my cycle, or yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, what the smog? I see so many bags. You know, in my personal life, no, it doesn't bother me at all. You're like, beautiful is beautiful. Exactly, it'd be like, I guess the most common question I get,

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is does it change my perception when I'm dating somebody? Or am I looking for flaws or nothing? I'm like, no, if I'm on the clock, I'm on the clock. I'm not working with you, you know? If I'm with you, I find you attractive and that's it. You know, I'm a man at the end of the day. Yeah. These are the questions that girls need to know. Do not sign up for DMs, ladies. Do not.

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Other question that came from the audience was, do you ever consider people's mental health? I do. What does that look like? What's that kind of criteria for you? Yeah, so as a plastic surgeon, a big thing I have to do is manage expectations. That's why I like them bringing in pictures to kind of see where they're at. If they're on, if they have some psychiatric issues, I do make them get a clearance from their psychiatrist to make sure that they're in a good mental state to have surgery. And a lot of that...

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is on my part though, is when they come in for consultation, you know, talking to them and having that dialogue. That's why it's super important to have a plastic surgeon that's relatable or that's gonna communicate and take their time with you. Because once I operate on you, I own you, you know, at that point. I have to make sure that you're good. You're responsible for it. Yeah, exactly. And so having that consultation, talking to them, getting to know them and what their expectations are is a big thing. So, I mean, because I've canceled surgeries, or, you know, I've decided not to operate on people.

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that I felt like I couldn't deliver on what they wanted, or if I felt like they have what's called BDD, body dysmorphic disorder, where you see some people out on social media that look like, who would do this? And those people usually have some mental component to where- Like on botched, like on the TV show? Exactly, you see these people and I'm like, yo, I'm not putting my stamp on you, because people are gonna ask, like, who operating? You'll say, oh, Dr. Trey, bro, I'm not going to that guy. And it clearly has no standards or morals. And so that's a-

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That's a big thing. So it really comes down to the consultation and talking with patients. What percentage of people who are getting a BBL or the boobstun have a man paying for it? Man, that's a good question. I never pay attention to it unless they come into consultation. The men come into the consultation? Only if they invite them, because I really prefer to just be them. But if there's a husband, they'll be like, oh, can my husband come, because he has some questions and things like that, I have no problem with talking with them.

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But you know, there are some red flags that I have to look for like, you know If she seems uncomfortable or if he's more pushy than she is or you know He's bringing up stuff that she's not even concerned about then that's those are the red flags. I'm looking for But uh, yeah, definitely the husbands are flipping the bill that like yeah This is this is my gift and say they come in so hype about it You know, you know what's funny a lot of times the husbands don't even want them to get anything Really? They're actually kind of upset that they're getting plastic surgery

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Really? Boyfriends too, yeah. I know, I thought it would be the other way around. But no, most of the time, they're kind of like... Women are getting it for them. Exactly. That's how you feel. And they're kind of like, you don't need anything. You're fine. Yeah. So that's usually the trend. You would think they're pushy, but they're not. And that's also kind of a thing too. So if I see someone that's like, yeah, get the surgery done, then I have to kind of turn in my radar a little bit more, because it's more common for them not.

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for them to have surgery. The men did not want them. So if the man's like, this is what we're doing, then it's like, all right, what's going on here? Come on, right? Yeah, yeah. Interesting. See, I would have thought you would have said, I mean, like, Miami, I'm like, these girls are sponsored. Right, right. But you see more of just the women are like, this is what I wanna do. Exactly. Interesting. Now, what season is the most busy for you? If I had to guess, it'd be tax season. Man, what? Refund season. High season, as we call it. It is true, like.

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January, we started booking up real heavy and then mid-February, man, people are coming in. And I mean, like droves. I'm trying to get my surgery in in March because they're trying to have a hot girl summer. Yeah, you mix tax season plus summer. Exactly. It's like, all right, I can get through the winter. Exactly. June, July, it starts to slow down a little bit. You know why? Because everybody's outside.

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Yeah, you're not trying to be laid up in the hospital. Well, I guess you're not in the hospital. No, no. They usually go home. And then back to school time, it slows down again, because they've got to switch to being mommies and going back to work and things like that. And then probably around now, it's starting to pick back up. Because people can just chill for the holidays. Exactly. And get surgery before Thanksgiving or before Christmas so they have more time to recover. When I'm trying to go on vacation, I'm trying to hang out with my family. But yeah, definitely tax season. OK. It gets crazy.

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All right, good to know. Do you give discounts in low seasons? I do. I do like flash sales and things like that, things booked and busy. Yeah. I mean, you have to be there anyways. Exactly. I only do it for like, usually more on breast augmentations. Those are quicker procedures, lower risk surgeries, things like that. The more riskier the surgery or more complication rates, then those surgeries I don't really put on sale. What is the riskiest surgery? High BMI, BBL? Yep, BBLs.

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And the reason being is because there's the risk of blood clots and there's also the risk of if you're putting the fat in the wrong place, then that fat instead of that blood clot is traveling to the heart and to the lungs. When you hear about someone dying from a BBL, that's usually what happens is it's usually what we call a fat embolism, a piece of fat that moves into the heart and lungs and blocks the blood from oxygenating. High risk. Very high risk.

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But the law is that you have to inject above the muscle because those vessels are in the muscle and deep to the muscle. So if you stay in that fatty plane, or we call it the subcutaneous plane, then you don't have any issues. It's giving doctor talk. OK. So outside of the US, myth or fact, Dominican Republic, Colombia, best places to go get plastic surgery. Or Turkey, I feel like, is popping up more recently. Turkey is really good for a face like rhinoplasty.

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face lifts, mid-face lifts, and hair transplant. That's kind of what they're known for in the plastic surgery community. And they're, I mean, they have some good results. I can't argue. I've seen some nose jobs and I'm like, that's impressive. And they have like really good surgeons out there because a lot of them come and speak at our conferences. Same thing with Columbia, Brazil, and the Dominican Republic. Their laws are different from us because it's based off state laws for us, but.

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in those countries, they can be a little bit more aggressive. They can take more fat. Or they have to stay in a hospital. So they can be a little bit more aggressive with their surgeons. And that's what some of them want, because they want a more exaggerated look. The only thing is, you have no legal rights out there. So if something goes wrong, that's what you have to deal with. Here, we're a lot more safer. We have a higher moral code and ethical code. Some surgeons out here break that, and they pay the price for it. But if you go out there, you're at their

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determination, but they have just as good as surgeons as we, sometimes better in different things, because they come and speak at our conferences and they teach us. Hmm. Okay, so if you're gonna go abroad, then it sounds like the advice might be, pick someone who- Is reputable. Is reputable, and also pick someone who is teaching and is like part of the- Exactly. You know, just to make sure. To different organizations, exactly. I think another thing you can do is just, definitely have something set up to where you can recover. Because a lot of times, they won't let you leave the country.

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that you have to sign away that right until you kind of healed up. Cause some people try to come in and out. And the thing is, they're just as expensive if not more expensive than us. So people like think they're going for something cheap. If they're good, they're not going to be cheap. So that's another flag you got to look at. I would have not felt that. I mean, my assumption is that the girls are going down there cause it's half the price. Yeah, it used to be, but now those guys are so good. And because of social media, they're just as...

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just as popular as some of the US surgeons, they raise their prices too. And you're international. Exactly. So like now you're, I mean, you know, you get two weeks, three weeks. Yeah, but they're just as safe, the reputable ones now. Yeah. Yeah, we're not talking about the ones in the motels. Yeah, exactly. We're not talking about those people. Okay, question from the audience, which is we've heard about men getting these heightening procedures where they can grow like three to five inches.

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What does that entail? So they're putting these external fixators on legs. So if you have a really bad broken bone, where it just doesn't come together as easy, almost like different pieces, they put these external fixators on. So it's like a cage that holds the bone in different places. And they're doing it. They're basically sawing the bone. Inside your bone. Yeah. Yeah, they're sawing the bone and makes you a little bit taller. So it works. It works, yeah. Some orthopedic surgeons are doing it. I think it's like 200.

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180,000, 200,000. Whoa. Now, so we didn't talk prices, but I was going there next. Yeah, yeah. That's nuts. Yeah, it's working. I don't know, and high demand. Pun intended. High demand. It is, but because of the price. But yeah, you've seen some success stories. At least I've seen, like, in social media and the news, yeah, mostly orthopedic surgery. I mean, I've seen some interviews of guys being like,

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Yeah, it was worth it though. I feel like women take me more seriously. I feel like I get advanced in my career. And I've actually seen the studies that show that men that are over six feet, how much it actually does impact their average wages and all types of stuff, even presidents. Yeah, I knew about the president one, but I didn't know about the career one. That's awesome. Like if you look at the appetite of CEOs, it's not 411, that's for sure. No, I'm not. You would be a great CEO statistically speaking. We're working on it. We're building.

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I love it. Okay. Someone said my hairline is getting a little thin. What's the tea on hair transplants for men? Do I need to fly to Istanbul? Well, not necessarily. I have a good friend that does hair transplant. He's out in Beverly Hills, the Crown Institute, and they're doing really good work. There's some PRP treatments where they take your own blood, they spin it down, and then they inject it in these areas where you have like patches or things like that. And that's been shown to work as well, too. Some dermatologists do it. But I know the Crown Institute personally, Dr. Robert Drummond and Dr.

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Facial plastic surgeon on Beverly Hills, they have an institute where they're doing really good work, especially in people of color. Yes. Okay. So non-surgical body contouring, so I guess cool sculpting and some other things, versus surgery for diasterecte post-pregnancy. What's your perspective? So with diasterecte, that's when the abs- Yeah, see, I can't even, did you hear that? That was a really polite way of being like, girl, you don't know what you're talking about. No, no, you know what you're talking about.

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That's when the ab muscles get separated either through like massive weight gain or usually more than common the babies They push those ab muscles back and you know, sometimes they come back a little bit But they're never as straight as they were, you know Prepartum and the only way to really fix that is a tummy tuck because you have to be in there You have to sew those ab muscles together. So there's no correcting it Of course, there's gonna be some company out there that's gonna try to oh if you were this type of waist trainer You do this that another and I will bring your abs together

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In other words, there is no replacement for surgery for that. You can do like almost like a mini tuck to try to get to the area to actually do the sewing. What's a mini tummy tuck? It's just a short scar tummy tuck. Like the size of like a C-section scar? Exactly. How long is a tummy tuck scar? Hip to hip bone. That's the standard. How are these people hiding that? I don't understand. Tattoos, they're actually tattooing like the scar. Not necessarily like getting like a floral type tattoo, but like

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color match to try to hard it. Yeah. That's what a lot of people are doing. It came out of breast reconstruction, like we would tattoo nipples and tattoo scars. They're doing it for these tummy tucks scars to better camouflage. And just some people heal super nice. No, but black people don't. You know, it's tougher for us. Yeah. It's tougher. But there are some people that hear. I have a scratch right here. It's going to be a scar from a scratch. Like, OK. So tummy tucks are from here to here. And.

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I also heard that people could get them underneath. Yeah, they can do a reverse abdominal plaster, a reverse tummy tuck, where they hide the scar underneath the breast. But it just depends on where the skin is loose. If the skin is loose lower, then you need to have a lower, we've got a traditional tummy tuck or abdominal plaster. If the skin's more loose, like higher, then you can pull that skin up and hide the scar underneath the breast. So can people just get a tummy tuck?

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So tummy tuck is lipo and like do you move fat and do you? Yeah, most people will do a little bit of lipo on the sides when they do their tummy tuck just to give it a more smoother and a better aesthetic look, yeah, for sure. Okay, okay, all right, I think I got that answer. In other words, the answer to your question is no. Body contouring, non-surgical versus surgical. Yeah, for an access like that, yeah, you have to go under the knife. Okay, so breastfeeding after two babies, your boobs have drooped, et cetera.

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Is there a way to lift it without you having to get stuff in it? I mean, you can do a lift without using implants, but once they become that tautic, that stretched out, the only way to fix it is with surgery, unfortunately. Are the girls coming in to get things done vagin*lly? Yeah. What are those things? So we can do labiaplasty. OK. That's when the skin of the labia majora, menorah, it's a little bit longer. And they want the...

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You know, they have it nice and prettier. We do that, and that's usually a pretty quick procedure, but that is also a procedure that you can really mess up. So you need to know what you're doing. And then some people are getting like PRP injections to that area and enhances their org*sms. They say it tightens things and it makes things, yeah. Your own blood, stem cells going down there. And they say that men really enjoy it. Sure, that's true. These are real things. These are real things that are happening out here. Real things. Acidated.

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So the girls are losing weight fast. And then it feels like, particularly you look like the Kardashians and some of these other celebrities, they're still maintaining their curves and stuff. So do you think, are people losing weight and then coming in and then puffing it back up? Or how does this happen? I think a lot of times, yeah, they're dropping weight. And at the same time, if they're like any dips like in their hips or something like that, they want to be rounder. I think a lot of them are doing maybe Sculptra, some of the non-fat injectables. Because then you can hide those scars. It's really just a needle.

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to try to fill things out. But yeah, I think a lot of people are jumping on like the weight loss drugs. But they have their side effects. I've known people that were like sick, sick, like at home or whatever, but a lot of GI distress, but they work. It was built to be a diabetic drug and they notice like the massive changes in weight. But yeah, definitely if you're gonna be on it, read about the side effects, have a consultation with whoever's prescribing it.

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It works, but I mean, there are some bad side effects to it, so you have to be careful with it. And you can't have surgery when you're on it. Exactly, because, you know, before you have surgery, you have to be what we call NPO, nothing by mouth, for at least like eight hours or so before surgery. The way these drugs work, they make you feel full longer. There's food still kind of like sitting in you. And so, you know, you can run into like aspiration risks with the anesthesia because you still have like technically food particles or whatever in your GI system that need to be out, so.

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four weeks to kind of get it out of your system. And I think it's what most surgeons are doing, two to four weeks, unless it's like a critical procedure, then it can still happen. Yeah. It's just all the things that we all do. It's just so overwhelming. It's like, you take this drug to lose weight, and then you take the fat from over here, but you put it back in. And it's just, do you ever get like, guys, this is enough? Yeah. I mean, I've had patients that come in and I'm like, I literally see nothing wrong with you. And I feel like if I operate on you,

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I'm not gonna meet your expectation because I feel like I can mess it up because I've like you look great Yeah, and so those are the ones, you know, you gotta have that conversation with them I'm not just doing it just to do it Like, you know, there's risk in everything even if it is a routine procedure And if the risks are ways the benefit like and then with the fads and a transient because of social media plastic surgery still taking off It's not as taboo no more people actually talk about plastic. So it also feels more affordable. Like I thought

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some of these procedures would cost, I mean, minus the lengthening one, but like, lipo is like what, less than 10K now? Yeah, oh yeah, less than five. What? Yeah. Less than 5K for lipo? Yeah. Shoot, a personal trainer costs more than that. Exactly, come see me. But no, like, it's very like mainstream now, like there are surgery groups on Facebook that talk about different surgeons, what they're good at.

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you know, complications they've heard and things like that. Like there's surgery communities that talk about plastic surgery to come up with like, you know, oh, buy this or take these supplements and things like that, that help you through the recovery process and post-op process. So, you know, back in the day, like maybe the 90s plastic surgery was like, hush, hush. Oh, I think she had work done now. It's like, oh, yeah, I got a BBL. You know, they, they, they stumped it. Like I have followers, they call themselves dolls, like Trigs dolls and things like that. People that I've operated on and they just have a strict...

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surgery Instagram page. Wait, you have people who call themselves Trigs dolls? Yeah. I love that for you. Yeah, they'll put like their BMI and their like little bio of their IG. What surgery they had done. They'll put their pre-op post-op pictures, their recovery process. Yeah, they almost like a blog of their surgery. Wow. And they'll go like Dr. Trigs doll 2023 or soon to be Dr. Trigs doll.

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Or Dr. Triggs' masterpiece. Because it's like a part of their identity. Yeah. How does that make you feel? I don't know, man. Sometimes it makes me feel uncomfortable. I feel like that a lot to each. But, no, I mean, it's all up to them. Like... Are you going to get a trademark for that? No, no. I mean, the only thing I like, I used to hate this term, Trig-ified, but it's grown on me. I've seen your marketing materials. You like it. Yeah.

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grown to like it. So if someone comes out with these videos, I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's working. Shout out to your marketing team. It does work. Yeah. I love my patients, though. I have some good girls. Yeah. Oh my gosh, so good. How many people per month come in that are actually pregnant? Oh, for me, they come in and find out they're pregnant? Yeah. Oh, man. I get, like, maybe once a week. What the week? They'll come in and they'll do their pregnancy tests. Because usually, they'll have a pregnancy test with their normal labs within 30 days. But we always test them the day of surgery, too. Sure. Or the day before surgery.

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And we've had some patients find out they were pregnant the day before surgery. How do you even tell someone that? They're like, we're going to have to cancel your surgery. They're technically pregnant. A lot of times they don't want to believe it, so they'll go and they'll take an at-home kid, and then it winds up being positive. And then they got to go see their obi gian and have whatever conversation they need to have. Terrible. But yeah, about once a week, though. It's, yeah.

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That's a lot. About once a week. OK, now we got to get into it. What are the other really random things that you've seen where you're like, this is not really my job, but y'all are out here doing the most? I got some crazy stories. I've had women schedule consultations from jail or prison. From the contraband phone, they'll send in pictures. And we're like, yo, are those bars? She's like, I'm about to get out. I'm ready. Trying to get on the schedule. But do you take the consultation?

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I mean, yeah, I mean, she's like, this is, it's a free consultation. You know, I can't be out here like, not living up to my word. Like, we give them that, you know, we talk to them through their contraband prison phone. And I mean, there's some things women like, still having pieces of like bullet fragments, you know, in their butt and they wanna get a BBL. And I'm like, yo, I don't wanna do that because I don't know where these fragments might land or whatever.

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Stuff like that. You can't make this stuff fun. Like that prison phone one really took me for a loop. And that was like over a year ago when she was scheduling the consultation. Oh my gosh, that's a good one. So, you know, I have patients send in photos for their consultation. And, you know, some of these photos are, they're promiscuous. I'm like- I got a sexy photo for Dr. Triggs. With lingerie on and all of that.

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I'm like, we're supposed to be talking about your breasts, but you bent over. It's not where we're trying to go with this. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's so different. How many people come into consults just to hit on you? Probably about five or six. That's one a day. One a day. Or after surgery, they'll be trying to like come in more frequently. And I always have a chaperone. I don't play about that. Like there's someone in the room with me. Yeah, I have to protect myself and... Door open policy. Exactly.

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And yeah, they'd be like, oh, we should try to go out for drinks or something like that. It's a wild world out here. And then what happens when they see you out in public? Are people shy? Or are they like, hey? So last Saturday, I was at this birthday party. And someone said, hey, Dr. Triggs. And I took pictures. I get noticed the most, though, at airports. Oh, fascinating. Like, I'll have my twins with me. And they'll be like, oh, it's Dr. Triggs. And I'll say, I can't get a photo. I'm like, OK.

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You know, but it's crazy. Or I'll be on family vacation. We'll be at the outlet malls in Orlando. I'm like, I'll see you on Instagram. I think the craziest thing for me, my dad was coming in town and I went to Target to get some snacks and stuff for us to chill out, to watch the games. It was these girls, you could tell they were from New York because they had the accent. And they were like, they kept looking at me and they were like, I've seen you on TikTok. You're that surgeon from TikTok. And they were visiting Miami. And I was just like, yo, this is so.

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You're an Insta-famous doctor. I love that for you. Do kids know what you do? Yeah, they do. They think Instagram is TV, so they're like, I've seen daddy on TV. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. And they like the TikTok. They don't have any TikToks of their own, but they're like, there's daddy. He's on TikTok. He's famous. Well, my daughter loves it. But my son is just like, daddy works at a gym. I'm like, you've never seen me in no gym outside working. Not a gym. Right, trying to play me.

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But that's the type of relationship he has. I love that. He liked the joke on me. Keep you humble. Exactly. We had a lot of questions about this blood clot thing and the anesthesia. People are really terrified. Yeah, yeah. It's rare to die from actual anesthesia, like the anesthesia drug itself, unless you've got some weird genetic abnormality. And there's ways of treating that if that pops up. And they usually do a pretty good job of screening. So usually when someone dies from surgery, it's not because of the anesthesia. It's something else. Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. But obviously, doctors can't talk about what that is. There's no way for them to defend themselves. So like, you know, we see the news of someone dying. That doctor can't say, well, actually, this person had this, this, this, this, or lied about their this because legally, you can't act. And it's a stiff penalty if they were to break that. It's the HIPAA law. I think it's like maximal or minimal $250,000 in like five years in jail. And your reputation. And your reputation. So all they can do is just be quiet and just

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Let the rumors run amok until information comes out on its own. I feel bad for those doctors sometimes. I'm like, you're getting ripped apart. Yeah, because sometimes I put myself in their place, like, yo, like I would feel sick to my stuff. Like when I hear about a death, especially in Miami or someone, I know it's close, like it hurts me. I'm like, yo, man, like I wouldn't be able to sleep. Like, that's not why I'm in this business. No. Like the money's not good enough to put people at risk like that. And I got to be able to sleep for myself. So I have no problem canceling surgeries for like something's off.

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blood pressure's too high and stuff like that. It's not worth it, because I can sleep at night. And then, you know, how am I going to explain to your family, like, I'm sorry, I pushed through even though I should. I'm not doing that. Yeah, no. Not when it's like, optional. Exactly. It's cosmetic. Exactly. Now I'm in here trying to save their life, you know, for some type of heart, like a cardiothoracic surgeon. Then, you know, we talk about that kind of stuff. I am a aesthetic plastic surgeon at this point. Nah.

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Yeah. It's not worth it. It's not worth the stress. Not worth it. So what's next for you? I mean, do you plan on being like five plus surgeries a day for the next 20 years? I love plastic surgery, but I have other career goals that I want to look into. Like I'm really big on mentoring and giving back. So I just started my foundation. I really started following the paperwork in July at Dr. Wilt and Trix Foundation. So...

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We're working with any underprivileged kids in education and providing financial literacy. I thought you were going to say medical care. Well, just anything educational based to get them exposure. Because I don't even care if you want to become a doctor. I just want you to get an education and learn more and be exposed to things that you might not have been exposed to. So I'm really, really big into that. So I'm getting that off the ground. And I think that's probably what I'm going to move into.

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more full time in the next like 10 to 15 years. It's really like growing that. And then also sponsored other organizations, nonprofits, that deal with that same type of scope. So you wanna work with kids and get them earlier involved in their own personal finances. Exactly, personal finances and just education in general.

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OK. Programs, grants, how are you thinking? Mostly, for me, it's probably going to be from a grant scholarship perspective. And then I'll target other nonprofits that actually do the hands-on work that are taking them in the field and giving them ACT, ACT prep. I work with a nonprofit in Tampa when I was in residency. And even now, I know the owners.

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the CEO, and it's called G3 Life Applications, and they're trying to start a charter school and things like that, so I want to be involved. So let me help try to raise monies to help these type of programs. That's where my strong suit is, outside of actually doing little career days and talking about medicine and stuff like that. I feel like I can have a bigger range in doing that and providing monies and things like that. Philanthropist. That's the move.

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That's the move for me. Miami surgeon. I know, Miami hot boy surgeon. You added the hot boy not me. I'm just going off what they tell me. To philanthropists foundation extraordinaire. I love that for you. But you gotta make a lot of money to live that life. Do you have a number? I do have a number. What's your number? We have a number. We're getting there. What's the number?

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If everything stays on course five to eight years. Is it assets that you want? Or is it like actual? I have an actual number and amount of assets that I want. So once I hit that, because most of my assets are equities, little stocks, bonds, and things like that. So once I get a certain number, amount of equity, then of course I draw credit lines and stuff like that. That's when I'm probably going to step down from plastic surgery and solve for an entropy.

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And if things stay on track as they are now, it's five years, five to eight years. Wow, that's soon. Yeah. That's very soon. Yeah. I think you're going to get bored. You think so? I don't think that's enough. You don't think so? No. I feel like there's other ventures. You know, I'm building. I want to dive into commercial real estate and things like that. I'm actually studying to take the securities exam. I feel like if- Really? Yes. I feel like if most of my money is in equities.

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Like I should know what the stockbrokers know, so why not take the test? I love that. I've been studying for that. You're clearly a good test taker. Yeah. Because you made it through all these different things. Yeah, so in my free time, that's what I've been doing. I've been studying for that, and then I'll probably take the Series 7. Oh, wow. And yeah, we'll see. We'll see where we go from there. Interesting. The reason I ask, one I already knew, because I might have answered, y'all know I do my research before these interviews. But the reason I ask is because a lot of times on this podcast, we talk about people's journey and...

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typically people get to this point at some point where they're like, and I'm done with that. Even if you've already sunk cost of med school, residency, building your brand, building your career, building your portfolio as a surgeon, you're still like, when I'm 60, being a surgeon may not even be a part of my identity at all. Right. Right? Exactly. And I think that's really scary for a lot of people. People feel like they're alone in that, but actually the majority of people I speak to

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have that vision for themselves. And then I think physicians in general, the burnout is real. You're hearing a lot, especially in COVID. And luckily, I wasn't one of those specialties that really got slammed like that. But a lot of physicians burn out. You know, you hear about physician suicide. It's terrible. And because of the medical legal realm now, with different health departments cracking down on stuff, physicians are just tired. You know, you're doing it.

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more paperwork than you are providing care, you know? And I'm not gonna burn out. I'm not doing that. You're like, I'm out before that happens. I have two children that I love spending time with. You know, the money will come, I will figure it out. Yeah. And I have other passions. When I tell people that at some point I won't be CEO of Glavity, they like can't understand what I'm saying. Right. I'm like, no, there will be a point where it like doesn't make sense for the world for me to be the CEO and it doesn't make sense for me. Right. And you know, yes, there's savants like a Steve Jobs or a.

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Bob Iger or Mark Zuckerberg or people who like start when they're 20 and go all the way. But I think the majority of people would prefer if they had a choice to live a different life. They would. For sure. Like after you've accomplished what you wanted to accomplish. Now I was one of those people like, why would you do that? Now I'm kind of like, oh, I see why now. Like, yeah, I'm gonna get to this point, move on to the next thing. I think that's really interesting and hopefully encouraging other people to feel a little bit more free. It's like, who cares that you sunk all this time when you were in your 20s? Like it's done.

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Exactly. It was a great experience, you know, studying late night, making great friends, like the anxiety of test taken and things like that. Okay, I've done it. That's cool. Okay, Dr. Treggs, for anyone who's looking to book a consultation, although from my perspective, I'm like, y'all got a free consultation. So respect this man's time. But other than that, for their personalized consultation, where can people find you? How do they reach out to you? Let's start there. Yeah. So,

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I provide my services to Vixen Plastic Surgery in Miami, in Coral Gables, at Dr. Triggs Miami. That's my business page for plastic surgery. And then at Vixen Plastic Surgery, both are on Instagram and we have a website, www.vixenplasticsurgery.com. That's where they can click the link or call for their free consultation. Okay. And can they request you specifically? Definitely. Okay. And how far in advance?

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If they're like, I want surgery in three months, how far advanced do they get a consultation? I would say if you have a goal, like a weight loss goal, and you still haven't met there, I'll do the consultation at any point. But if you haven't reached a certain BMI, or you used to have things going on, we're gonna have to redo the consultation, because your body may have changed a lot. And so I'll do the consultation at any point, just so you can get the information that you need, and make the decision you need to. That can happen anytime, but if we got surgery coming up, probably within a month, 30 days. Oh.

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So someone could book you and they could be on your schedule in 30 days? Yeah. I heard that you had a wait list and people was getting pushed out to two, three months. Sometimes. Well, I'll put it like this. The consultation wise is easy, not actual booking of surgery. That's where we kind of finagle because I do have some blackout dates and stuff like that for family stuff or whatever. So yeah, there is a wait list for that. But for actual consultations. Like how many people's expectations. Yeah, for consultations though, you can do those kind of like anytime. It's like the actual surgery schedule and the surgery schedule. I think we're like at three months or something.

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Yeah. Let me be clear. Right. Are they saying, well, Morgan said, Wilton, thank you so much for joining us today. This is very entertaining and interesting to me. Hopefully, it was interesting to all of you. Yeah, man, I had a blast. Small town boy from Alabama out here. Out here. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha. Thanks for listening to The Journey Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure you leave a review and head to our Instagram and YouTube to leave a comment.

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I look forward to hearing how this podcast has made an impact on your own journey.

Plastic Surgery Facts vs. Myths with Dr. Wilton Triggs — Morgan DeBaun (2024)
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